i don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.
the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.
they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.
If you believe salvation is only offered to those that follow a certain set of tenets, then you are no better than the WTBTS.
Even Jesus taught salvation is based on good works, repentance and devotion, the Pauline doctrine of salvation through faith is just one way of doing the things Jesus asked (care for the widows and orphans, …)
6/3/2025 former jehovah's witness sentenced for child sexual assault shaun sheffer, 47, of harmony was found guilty in january of three counts each of rape and indecent assault, including assault of a person less than 13 who had a mental disability.
he also was convicted of corruption of minors.... https://triblive.com/local/regional/former-jehovahs-witness-sentenced-for-child-sexual-assault/ .
Seems like a monthly occurrence now to have one or two of these articles...
so my wife ran into a elder i new 10 years ago and invites him to dinner!!!!!
he arives and gives me a bear hug...love bombing!
he started talking about armegedon is really very very close.
@blondie: nobody "carried away" the Jews. DNA evidence is quite clear, people with what we call Jewish origin have lived there for thousands of years in what the Romans called "Syria-Palestina". There is also an Arab and Christian population which has genetic roots. They are also called "Israelis" because they live in Israel and they ALSO have been displaced from Gaza and the West Bank for safety reasons.
The Romans themselves didn't keep the area until 1948. The so-called modern day Palestinians are genetically Jordanians, Egyptians and others from around that area in North Africa, they invaded in the early 20th century. Gaza and the West Bank was a concession to those people. Lebanon was a majority Christian country until the early 20th century, Syria was Alawite (Shia) Muslim and Druze, both countries have seen major populations of said religious groups moved into Israel, displaced from their own home countries since the late 19th century by surges of Sunni Muslims from modern day Iran, Egypt and Jordan (the latter two pushed out and massacred the "Palestinian" population because of integration issues). The Gazans/Palestinians are the ONLY group in the area that has not integrated into Israel. The Druze, Christians and Alawites all integrate perfectly fine in Israel.
if you have been seeing the world news, you probably aware that zelensky launch a drown attack on putin and almost killed him.
putin lost it and hit ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of war so far, killing not only soldiers by many civilians.
even trump has said putin has changed.
Funny to hear all these people complain about Trump when it was Biden that started the war and did literally nothing about it, didn't even get either of them to the table.
The US has been quietly pushing on Putin to come to the table, they have been 3 years without any true aid from the US, so Ukraine was losing, Trump comes by and now they are firebombing Putin's sleeping quarters? Trump gave him an ultimatum now, read between the lines, when he says you've got 2 weeks, like Iran with Suleiman, this is just a shot across the bow.
Putin knows where this is coming from, we just can't say it out loud, because if Trump said it, Putin would have to be 'strong' and respond but Putin admitting they can't fight against a Ukraine-US ally is also a problem. Ukraine signed onto the rare earths deal, this is their 'reward'. It's not all that hard to understand these dynamics.
Putin has signed onto the Western media's depiction of Trump as weak and internally focused, then they are flabbergasted when the US flexes their muscle. You see the same in Gaza, Biden kept things stringing along for over a year with hundreds of hostages in play, now Israel got the go-ahead from Trump, Hamas is running away, Gazans are rebelling against Hamas, there is pandemonium with the Houthi rebels too, years of attacking the Red Sea shipping under Biden, a few weeks after Trump nobody is talking about it anymore, their entire piracy infrastructure has quite literally sunk.
the hatred against whites is escalating to an unprecedented degree.
in south africa, they are calling for complete genocide of white people.
for some reason they are targeting all the white farmers.. i’m so glad trump noticed.
@Earnest: We've already demonstrated plenty of times, there are laws specifically against white farmers, there are attacks being called for by leaders in the current government in both minority and majority parties, and not just at rallies but permitted openly on the floor of parliament. Just ignoring the evidence or taking the word from a very partial anti-white/anti-western group of people doesn't stop it being a genocide.
5/24/25 some fluff for your perusal.
"11 celebrities who were raised as jehovah's witnesses".
celebrityby toofab staff|5/24/2025 8:44 am pt.
post covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.
@a watchers: 4 months in, 3 years and 8 months to go.
a 1st cousin(a) of mine just called me about one of my great aunts(b) getting reinstated.
(b) has been disfellowship for as long as i can remember.
(a) has always stood on the fence with his beliefs.
Problem with POMI is they don’t leave behind the toxic culture. This morning I heard of another attempted suicide (now in hospital) because POMI parent being an absolute self righteous asshole. Doesn’t want to make the effort, but expects the children to live according to the rules, doesn’t let them express what they want, isolates them, they need to put their happy faces on.
Yes, there are bad parents everywhere, but the borg gives a ‘permit’ to a lot of atrocity and sets unrealistic expectations of women, wives, children, something I recognized in myself only after the fact when it was too late.
Problem with this situation is now the in-family is going to excuse their behavior and love bomb for what happened, pushing them to find god in all the wrong places.
if you have been seeing the world news, you probably aware that zelensky launch a drown attack on putin and almost killed him.
putin lost it and hit ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of war so far, killing not only soldiers by many civilians.
even trump has said putin has changed.
Goebbels was the mouthpiece behind Hitler, wrote the speeches, the doctrine. Most people think Goring or Himmler, but Hitler I believe was afraid of both and put them at opposite power houses (one had the military and the other the police) so they checkmated each other. I don’t think a ‘more reasonable’ politician would have taken the place. After Hitler killed himself, Goebbels did take the power (for about 1 day before he committed suicide, but still).
Like most socialists, Hitler had already removed anyone capable from power except for a few very hardcore believers near to him which equally would have assassinated him if opportunity presented itself. Just look at the deaths of Lenin and then later the last days of Stalin, loyalist bureaucrats, too afraid that didn’t are lift a finger when Stalin vis-a-vis Khrushchev (initiated the Cuban Missile Crisis) gathered power under their noses.
post covid, post trump, post cedarsgate, post tony morris, post arc… where r we now?.
The WTBTS has been hemorrhaging both people and money, they have become more “part of this world” during COVID, no longer relying on Jehoober to either gather together or save their lives, instead following government limits on worship and promoting fetal tissue developed vaccines.
People both in and out have noticed, do less, care less. It’s become more of a social club in most congregations and the rules that govern even amongst the elders would once have been considered by grown-ins only appropriate for the spiritually weak and morally loose.
I think the Internet changed them. In some ways for good, but they still keep the long tail from their historic sin and that baggage will not go away regardless of their rebrand.
What I think is ironic is that the very thing that started the WTBTS, the calling out of contemporary religious leaders for collaborating with governments, their leadership having disproportionate amounts of money and the unchecked power some pastors wielded within congregations, a flattening/equalization of protestantism amongst denominations and abandonment of prior moral guidelines is what they themselves turned into.
